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RoosterRoy's avatar

I'm a big fan of David Frost, but I think he's as guilty of not accurately characterising his opponents as they are of him (he's right, I think - although I can't know - that they inaccurately characterise him). Frost is correct that our current state is simply not capable of effective management of anything, let alone anything as dynamic, sophisticated or requiring of humility as an economy. But I think there is an interesting test case.

There was an interesting talk at Onward recently about industrial policy. Ben Houchen explained how the UK was subsidising wind power and we ended up with lots of wind farms of ever increasing size and power. Now you might think that was a silly idea, but it was the policy and it was happening and it was going to happen in other countries too. So let's, for a moment, take as a given that this country and others are / were spending a lot of money on wind farms.

But, because Denmark backed its manufacturers and the UK didn't, the entire supply chain went to Denmark, along with the jobs and the export earnings. Was that a good outcome? I'd say categorically not. Those UK energy subsidies are now funding a Danish manufacturer rather than a UK one. Wouldn't it have made more sense to find a way to get UK manufacturers in on the act? Don't believe it can be done? Denmark did it. Other countries routinely do this sort of thing. If the state currently can't manage it, change the state. Bring in people from abroad and train British people.

Here's another one. We need a bigger Navy. That means we ought to be committing billions of pounds to building ships. What if we used some of that (using foreign know how to begin with) to build up a ship building industry. Nightmares of British Leyland causing you to wake up in a cold sweat? Well you should have nightmares about that. You need a range of *private* sector actors to build the ships who receive government support only if they export. No exports, no subsidies / overpriced government business. Gradually tighten the screw on the support to force the industry to become more competitive until it reaches the techonological frontier. All the while you're getting cheaper and cheaper naval vessels and keeping more of the cash in the UK rather than getting the Poles to build your hulls.

There are elements of competitive advantage governments can identify. Particularly, areas where the government is already spending money. Surely we can agree that having identified these we should seek to increase our competitive advantage. And it can be done. Other states (Korea, Taiwan, Japan, China) have a record of forcing their businesses to greater and greater heights.

Why not the UK?

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David Walker's avatar

"Get tax and spend down."

No chance of that with those Globalist spivs Sunak and Hunt in charge, is there?

Sunak has an unblemished record of profligacy, culminating in the £37 billion bugridden Track&Trace Smartphone app that could have been written better by a 14 year old GCSE IT student and is now admitted never so much as saved a single life.

Hunt wants to tax us to death and drive away any prospect of foreign investment - all in the pursuit of their Globalist puppetmasters objective of accelerating our Managed Decline via the AGW hoax.

Then you've got the Great Gender Fiasco, hundreds of our kids being groomed by Stonewall and Mermaids with the full approval of the Uncivil Disservice, most of whom have given up work altogether to play with their Peletons and watch their gross goldplated pensions expand a an ever increasing rate.

Sorry mate, you lot have had 13 years and made things infinitely worse, it's Reform for me and I suspect enough others to give you lot a bloody nose.

The last time we had a Conservative government was 28/11/1990 - and by God it shows!

And that's without mentioning the ongoing Covid19 mismanagement that looks likely to be more destructive to the nation than WWII.

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